ABV 111...Первый!!! Кто в курсе какое решение приняли по Хамику...
никакое. Все ОК. Наказание было бы чистой воды режиссурой... Бля, как писали в Автомотоспорте за 1997 год, когда в ФИА "топили" Вильнева - "Бумажный пейс-кар"...
ну ет всё понятно ;) не думаю, конечно что слишком серьезны намерения судей - ведь за Хэма вмешается некто "седой дядько", которому чемпионство Льюиса ой как выгодно ;) так шо - релакс.
Да и, просмотрев инцидент - понятно, что ничего там страшного не было. Да, замедлился, ну так и шо?
Ясно что слухи о дисквале Льюиса - чистой воды подогрев интереса к чемпионату, ведь Льюис самый реальный претендент на титул, поэтому если интриги нет на трасса, она будет на бумаге (в судах, газетах и т.п.). Впрочем после жесткого (ИМХО) дисквала МакЛарена в К.К. я ни чему не удивлюсь. Точь-в-точь как в 1997 году наказавают (условно) Жака Вильнева за нелепую ситацию с желтыми флагами на тренировке перед ГП Японии... ничего он не потерял тогда, но психологически это конечно давит....
McLaren's Formula One championship leader Lewis Hamilton escaped sanction on Friday after a stewards' enquiry into his driving at last weekend's Japanese Grand Prix, the governing body FIA said.
Toro Rosso's Sebastian Vettel, who collided with Red Bull's Mark Webber in that race while following Hamilton behind the safety car, had a 10-place penalty on the Chinese Grand Prix starting grid replaced with a reprimand.
Hamilton can become Formula One's first rookie champion if he wins in China on Sunday.
его лишили 2 очков за 5-ое место, помнишь? но там было условие - если подавали протест - то участие в ГП Европы Жаку не гарантировали. Короче ФИА нагло вмешалась в борьбу за корону (тогда оппонентом Жака был любимчик Берни Михаэль Шумахер) и поставило ультиматум (ОЧЕНЬ нечестно на мой взгляд...).
А Хамильтон завоевал поул-позишн. Очень интересно. конечно, что за стратегия в боксах МакЛарен. Тем не менее, достаточно достойное выступление по сравнению с формой Феррари на протяжение всего уик-энда.
an.dre...Тем не менее, достаточно достойное выступление по сравнению с формой Феррари на протяжение всего уик-энда....
+1, неожидал. Кстати, наверное впервые за много-много лет не будет давить жаба из-за победы Феррари, как в К.К., так и в отдельной взятой гонке, т.к. шансы Кими на титул больше теоретические, нежели реальные... :-) думаю что завтра будет интересная борьба, особенно если Льюис едет с небольшим кол-вом топлива на борту.
Берни Эклстоун неожиданно поддержал Льюиса Гамильтона, заявив, что англичанин – лучший кандидат на чемпионский титул.
“Льюис Гамильтон - глоток свежего воздуха, он возродил Формулу-1. Я нахожусь в автоспорте дольше, чем могу вспомнить и никогда не видел такого гонщика. От нас ушел большой герой - Михаэль Шумахер, но в лице Льюиса мы получили нового. Если бы не он, я даже не знаю, что бы стало со спортом”, - заявил Эклстоун газете The Guardian.
“Для меня совершенно очевидно, что самый лучший кандидат на чемпионский титул - Льюис. Я бы опасался, если бы он не выиграл. Кими Райкконен почти ни с кем не говорит и для спорта она сделал немного. Фернандо Алонсо за два года своего чемпионства тоже не сделал ничего”, - добавил Эклстоун.
блин, как бесит такое произношение фамилии... бля, а-ля доктор Ватсон (Watson = Уотсон)
P.S. Ren TV - говно... заеббит со своими рекламами, ну ладно импотенция, так нет, пиарят какое-то говно - телепередачи... долбоебическая песня "Солдаты" на х.з. сколько времени... а тем временем в боксах (переключал) были интересные радиообмены между пилотами и инженерами... ИМХО такие длинные паузы в трансляции создают у поклонников (т.е. у целевой аудитории) негативный подход к рекламируемому...
Сегодняшнее интервью: главный тезис: "Я больше не думаю о чемпионате. Титул был отдан судьями соревнований в руки Льюису, после того, как решили его не наказывать за ГП Китая."
Fernando Alonso believes this year's Formula One world title race ended when stewards decided not to punish McLaren teammate Lewis Hamilton for his driving at the Japanese Grand Prix.
Briton Hamilton took pole position for the Chinese Grand Prix on Saturday and just needs to finish ahead of Alonso and Finn Kimi Raikkonen on Sunday to become the first rookie world champion.
But it might have been very different had stewards investigating a crash behind the safety car in Fuji last weekend punished Hamilton by moving him down the grid for alleged erratic driving.
"I'm not thinking of this championship anymore, it's been decided off the track," Alonso, who trails Hamilton by 12 points with two races left in the season, told Italy's Sky TV before practice.
The allegation that Hamilton's driving had contributed to the collision between Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber in Japan was discussed late on Friday at a meeting of the drivers presided over by Formula One race director Charlie Whiting.
"The drivers' briefing has no purpose," Alonso said.
"You go there to hear what Charlie Whiting and the other officials say. Twenty one drivers have an opinion, Charlie and the officials another, and so it's like talking to a wall.
"It's better not to waste time and try to have fun in the car."
The Spaniard did not have much fun in qualifying on Saturday, finishing fourth behind Hamilton and the Ferraris of Raikkonen and Felipe Massa.
"Fourth place is the worst place to start tomorrow in terms of the championship battle," he told reporters.
"I am a little bit pessimistic after the result today and after what happened all weekend. I really think that destiny means it is not my lucky year this time."
Despite that pessimism, the double defending world champion said he could still win Sunday's race if the rain clouds hurtling towards Shanghai ahead of typhoon Krosa get to the circuit in time for the race.
"We expect some rain tomorrow and we know what can happen in wet races, so fingers crossed for tomorrow for some rain and maybe I have a chance," he said.
The 26-year-old, in his first season with McLaren, said he had experienced more ups and downs this year than in any previous season and admitted to being angry at end of qualifying.
"I am always angry when I'm not in a good position and I don't perform as well as I can. That is normal."
И ВОТ! ПОЧТИ СВЕРШИЛОСЬ! АЛОНСО ОБОСРАЛ МАКЛАРЕН!!!
"I was expecting a lot more, we all were," Alonso said. "From the outside, the team had a different image: serious, but very professional. And I arrived here after two titles; I improved the car as much as I could.
"Last year they were fighting to make it into Q3 and this year they are going to win the championship, and the truth is that the treatment has not been very good."
When asked if the treatment he received was that deserved by a two-time champion, Alonso said: "Not a double champion, but a normal person."
Alonso was also clearly unimpressed by claims from Dennis from earlier in the weekend, when the McLaren boss said he was disappointed by the Spaniard's failure to defend the team against suggestions of favouritism.
"It's better to be silent than to lie, that's for sure," said Alonso about Dennis' remarks. "And that's something he should do more often and I think the team would do better. Many of the scandals McLaren have been involved in off the track this year have been created by his things.
"Each one has his own philosophy, he has his, and we all understand it. I have spoken a lot with (David) Coulthard, with (Juan Pablo) Montoya, with Kimi (Raikkonen), and they have all left the team and found a lot of happiness. There must be a reason."
The double world champion, whose future at McLaren is already in doubt, was also critical of Dennis's policy of equality at the team, although the Spaniard made it clear he had not been promised preferential treatment when he joined the team.
"He (Dennis) didn't promise me anything," he said. "You are always hearing about that so called equality in the team, but tell me what you brag about and I'll tell you what you are lacking.
"It's impossible to have equality in a Formula One team, there's always a better engine, a better lap to stop in, there's always a better option.
"I'm not saying it's not equality, because sometimes it's one driver's turn and other times it's the other's, but you always hear him talk about that or promising things, and it's not like that."
Alonso, who has a contract with McLaren for the next two years but is increasingly unlikely to see out the deal, confessed he is unsure if he will be at the team in 2008.
"I don't know. What happens next year is another matter. All I know is that I have a contract here and we will see next year. There are 10 teams that could be interested in me.
"I'm ready to do the best I can, to help the team, to have a good car and try to win races. But they ... things like what they say or do, or days like at Spa, or all the lies that they leak to the press, both British and German, to go against me. That, inside my own team...They have to do something to improve the situation."
The double champion conceded, however, that teammate Lewis Hamilton will be a worthy champion if he becomes the first rookie to win the title.
"I think so, I think he deserves it if he wins it in the end," Alonso added. "I think you have to know how to win and how to lose, and if I don't win this year it's because someone has scored more points than me, and if that's the case it's because he has done a better job."
Alonso will start tomorrow's Chinese Grand Prix from fourth place while Hamilton secured his sixth pole of the season. The British driver needs to finish ahead of Alonso and Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen to clinch the title.
an.dre...Each one has his own philosophy, he has his, and we all understand it. I have spoken a lot with (David) Coulthard, with (Juan Pablo) Montoya, with Kimi (Raikkonen), and they have all left the team and found a lot of happiness. There must be a reason."...
вот именно, бля начинаю потихоньку уважать алонсо,почему то.
и за всю его речь отдельное спасибо. хз, было в ф1 так,что гонщику всячески мешали выиграть чемпионат, а вот , чтоб помогали так явно, никогда!
an.dre...И ВОТ! ПОЧТИ СВЕРШИЛОСЬ! АЛОНСО ОБОСРАЛ МАКЛАРЕН!!!...
hm... a on ne boitsea, chto zavtra emu nechaino topliva nedoliiut ili koleso nedozakruteat? sovsem vidati nakipelo, raz okonchania sezona ne stal dojidatisea... eh Ron, Ron ... opeati s treskom provalennaia popytka super-tandema a-lea Prost-Senna... mda...
A vot naschiot togo, chto titul vetchiny - glavnaia tsel' Berni i FIA v etom sezone - eto tocno... soglasen... Mogu daje poshutit' v duhe Dksofta, chto esli zavtra pod taifunom Ham uletit i ne smojet vernut'sea - gonku tut je ostanoveat krasnym flagom daby zaschitati emu pozitsiyu... ;)
an.dre...Ron Dennis: "... opeati s treskom provalennaia popytka...
i togda ne udalasi, ibo Prost ushel... no mir s zataennym dyhaniem smotrel na eto... i do sih por s voshisheniem vse vspominaiut... a seichas F1 drugaia i slyshkom mnogo skandalov vne trassy... i vynosov sora iz izby Rona...
ron dennis...i togda ne udalasi, ibo Prost ushel... no mir s zataennym...
мне кажется что часть Алонсо пистетс как хочет остаться на будущий год в МакЛарене - и начесать задницу Хамильтону. и только потом уйти. ЗЫ: история повторится, таким образом.
an.dre...мне кажется что часть Алонсо пистетс как хочет остаться на будущий год в МакЛарене...
Мне тоже так кажется, иначе бы он уже подписал бы контракт с одной из команд, т.к. топ-пилоты вроде как не откладывают это дело в долгий ящик. Тот же переход Фернандо был анонсирован за год до этого! А вот то, что в команде, неплохой и легендарной команде, разлад - это факт... ИМХО на слеующий год нужно затянуть гайки пилотам при помощи контрактов и за каждый прогон с их стороны снимать с из з/п копейку. Тогда быстро научатся держать язык за зубами.
Первый!!!
Кто в курсе какое решение приняли по Хамику на последнем ГП?
Втарая практико:
Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:36.607 31
2. Alonso McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:36.613 + 0.006 28
3. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:36.630 + 0.023 29
4. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:36.876 + 0.269 33
5. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:37.151 + 0.544 36
6. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:37.450 + 0.843 34
7. R.Schumacher Toyota (B) 1:37.524 + 0.917 32
8. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:37.617 + 1.010 27
9. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:37.646 + 1.039 36
10. Fisichella Renault (B) 1:37.970 + 1.363 32
11. Kovalainen Renault (B) 1:38.062 + 1.455 21
12. Button Honda (B) 1:38.205 + 1.598 41
13. Barrichello Honda (B) 1:38.304 + 1.697 40
14. Kubica BMW Sauber (B) 1:38.379 + 1.772 39
15. Heidfeld BMW Sauber (B) 1:38.388 + 1.781 16
16. Wurz Williams-Toyota (B) 1:38.531 + 1.924 32
17. Davidson Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:38.975 + 2.368 38
18. Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:39.065 + 2.458 36
19. Sutil Spyker-Ferrari (B) 1:39.224 + 2.617 37
20. Sato Super Aguri-Honda (B) 1:39.360 + 2.753 37
21. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:39.404 + 2.797 34
22. Yamamoto Spyker-Ferrari (B) 1:40.051 + 3.444 38
Hamilton under investigation over Japan driving
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/10/6923.html
гыы))
эта ваще ульот будит!
Ясно что слухи о дисквале Льюиса - чистой воды подогрев интереса к чемпионату, ведь Льюис самый реальный претендент на титул, поэтому если интриги нет на трасса, она будет на бумаге (в судах, газетах и т.п.). Впрочем после жесткого (ИМХО) дисквала МакЛарена в К.К. я ни чему не удивлюсь. Точь-в-точь как в 1997 году наказавают (условно) Жака Вильнева за нелепую ситацию с желтыми флагами на тренировке перед ГП Японии... ничего он не потерял тогда, но психологически это конечно давит....
Hamilton escapes Japanese GP penalty
Friday, October 5th 2007, 12:32 GMT
McLaren's Formula One championship leader Lewis Hamilton escaped sanction on Friday after a stewards' enquiry into his driving at last weekend's Japanese Grand Prix, the governing body FIA said.
Toro Rosso's Sebastian Vettel, who collided with Red Bull's Mark Webber in that race while following Hamilton behind the safety car, had a 10-place penalty on the Chinese Grand Prix starting grid replaced with a reprimand.
Hamilton can become Formula One's first rookie champion if he wins in China on Sunday.
гм шоп не подставлять чебурашко, не наказали и вундеркиндера, гламурненько , однако.
;)
А Хамильтон завоевал поул-позишн.
Очень интересно. конечно, что за стратегия в боксах МакЛарен.
Тем не менее, достаточно достойное выступление по сравнению с формой Феррари на протяжение всего уик-энда.
Берни Эклстоун неожиданно поддержал Льюиса Гамильтона, заявив, что англичанин – лучший кандидат на чемпионский титул.
“Льюис Гамильтон - глоток свежего воздуха, он возродил Формулу-1. Я нахожусь в автоспорте дольше, чем могу вспомнить и никогда не видел такого гонщика. От нас ушел большой герой - Михаэль Шумахер, но в лице Льюиса мы получили нового. Если бы не он, я даже не знаю, что бы стало со спортом”, - заявил Эклстоун газете The Guardian.
“Для меня совершенно очевидно, что самый лучший кандидат на чемпионский титул - Льюис. Я бы опасался, если бы он не выиграл. Кими Райкконен почти ни с кем не говорит и для спорта она сделал немного. Фернандо Алонсо за два года своего чемпионства тоже не сделал ничего”, - добавил Эклстоун.
http://www.formulamag.com/news/show/2692
Зачем тогда смотреть Ф-1? Уже ясно кто будет чемпионом на 10 лет вперед:)? Хэм будет 10-кратным:).
ыыыыыхыыыыыыыыыыыыыы
БЕРНЕ КРОСАВЧЕГ
БЛИА!!!!!!!! АЛОНСО!!!!!!!!! САВСЕМ АКУЕЛЪ ИМХО!!!!!!!!!!!
Сегодняшнее интервью: главный тезис:
"Я больше не думаю о чемпионате. Титул был отдан судьями соревнований в руки Льюису, после того, как решили его не наказывать за ГП Китая."
Судьи - педарасы, Хамильтон - педарас. Алонсо - ДаРтаньянщик!
Fernando Alonso believes this year's Formula One world title race ended when stewards decided not to punish McLaren teammate Lewis Hamilton for his driving at the Japanese Grand Prix.
Briton Hamilton took pole position for the Chinese Grand Prix on Saturday and just needs to finish ahead of Alonso and Finn Kimi Raikkonen on Sunday to become the first rookie world champion.
But it might have been very different had stewards investigating a crash behind the safety car in Fuji last weekend punished Hamilton by moving him down the grid for alleged erratic driving.
"I'm not thinking of this championship anymore, it's been decided off the track," Alonso, who trails Hamilton by 12 points with two races left in the season, told Italy's Sky TV before practice.
The allegation that Hamilton's driving had contributed to the collision between Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber in Japan was discussed late on Friday at a meeting of the drivers presided over by Formula One race director Charlie Whiting.
"The drivers' briefing has no purpose," Alonso said.
"You go there to hear what Charlie Whiting and the other officials say. Twenty one drivers have an opinion, Charlie and the officials another, and so it's like talking to a wall.
"It's better not to waste time and try to have fun in the car."
The Spaniard did not have much fun in qualifying on Saturday, finishing fourth behind Hamilton and the Ferraris of Raikkonen and Felipe Massa.
"Fourth place is the worst place to start tomorrow in terms of the championship battle," he told reporters.
"I am a little bit pessimistic after the result today and after what happened all weekend. I really think that destiny means it is not my lucky year this time."
Despite that pessimism, the double defending world champion said he could still win Sunday's race if the rain clouds hurtling towards Shanghai ahead of typhoon Krosa get to the circuit in time for the race.
"We expect some rain tomorrow and we know what can happen in wet races, so fingers crossed for tomorrow for some rain and maybe I have a chance," he said.
The 26-year-old, in his first season with McLaren, said he had experienced more ups and downs this year than in any previous season and admitted to being angry at end of qualifying.
"I am always angry when I'm not in a good position and I don't perform as well as I can. That is normal."
И ВОТ! ПОЧТИ СВЕРШИЛОСЬ! АЛОНСО ОБОСРАЛ МАКЛАРЕН!!!
"I was expecting a lot more, we all were," Alonso said. "From the outside, the team had a different image: serious, but very professional. And I arrived here after two titles; I improved the car as much as I could.
"Last year they were fighting to make it into Q3 and this year they are going to win the championship, and the truth is that the treatment has not been very good."
When asked if the treatment he received was that deserved by a two-time champion, Alonso said: "Not a double champion, but a normal person."
Alonso was also clearly unimpressed by claims from Dennis from earlier in the weekend, when the McLaren boss said he was disappointed by the Spaniard's failure to defend the team against suggestions of favouritism.
"It's better to be silent than to lie, that's for sure," said Alonso about Dennis' remarks. "And that's something he should do more often and I think the team would do better. Many of the scandals McLaren have been involved in off the track this year have been created by his things.
"Each one has his own philosophy, he has his, and we all understand it. I have spoken a lot with (David) Coulthard, with (Juan Pablo) Montoya, with Kimi (Raikkonen), and they have all left the team and found a lot of happiness. There must be a reason."
The double world champion, whose future at McLaren is already in doubt, was also critical of Dennis's policy of equality at the team, although the Spaniard made it clear he had not been promised preferential treatment when he joined the team.
"He (Dennis) didn't promise me anything," he said. "You are always hearing about that so called equality in the team, but tell me what you brag about and I'll tell you what you are lacking.
"It's impossible to have equality in a Formula One team, there's always a better engine, a better lap to stop in, there's always a better option.
"I'm not saying it's not equality, because sometimes it's one driver's turn and other times it's the other's, but you always hear him talk about that or promising things, and it's not like that."
Alonso, who has a contract with McLaren for the next two years but is increasingly unlikely to see out the deal, confessed he is unsure if he will be at the team in 2008.
"I don't know. What happens next year is another matter. All I know is that I have a contract here and we will see next year. There are 10 teams that could be interested in me.
"I'm ready to do the best I can, to help the team, to have a good car and try to win races. But they ... things like what they say or do, or days like at Spa, or all the lies that they leak to the press, both British and German, to go against me. That, inside my own team...They have to do something to improve the situation."
The double champion conceded, however, that teammate Lewis Hamilton will be a worthy champion if he becomes the first rookie to win the title.
"I think so, I think he deserves it if he wins it in the end," Alonso added. "I think you have to know how to win and how to lose, and if I don't win this year it's because someone has scored more points than me, and if that's the case it's because he has done a better job."
Alonso will start tomorrow's Chinese Grand Prix from fourth place while Hamilton secured his sixth pole of the season. The British driver needs to finish ahead of Alonso and Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen to clinch the title.
в принципе лично я тоже на всю эту историю смотрю с точки зрения - в итоге, - что Алонсо более, чем прав.
Молодец. Уверен, что именно он поднял во многом команду за одно межсезонье и первые пару гонок.
Ну что?!?!? Дождичег ;) СМОТРИМ СТАРТ :)
Масса - красава !
Все кроссавы ;) спокойненько так....никаких сильных столкновений....